WarriorBabe Lisa's Unbelievable Transformation Story

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00:32Today's story is about Lisa, a WarriorBabe member who broke free from the endless cycle of fad diets to discover a new way of eating that prioritizes muscle growth, clarity, and confidence. Stay tuned to hear how Lisa embraced carbohydrates, ditched the scale, and transformed her relationship with food for good. Welcome to a world where weight loss isn't the ultimate measure of progress. Meet Lisa, a dedicated WarriorBabe who gained a leaner physique, fuller muscles, and mental clarity by transforming her approach to health and fitness.

01:08I am your host, Nikki Stott. And on this episode, be sure to stick around to learn why trusting the process, planning your meals, and embracing a sustainable approach can help you transform your relationship with fitness too. Hey, everybody. Welcome to our WarriorBabe interview with our veteran WarriorBabe, Lisa. Lisa has been a WarriorBabe for about nine months now, right? Mm-hmm. Cool. And at the initial start, you just dove right into the VIP program. You came in. You were eating less carbohydrates.

01:40I bumped your carbs up to what? It's like 210 in that first week. You dropped weight. We were both like, oh, my God. But even though you've only lost about 10 pounds in total, you dropped down to like around the 15, 14 marker. But even though it's only been that 10 pound in your journey, your journey has been more of a stay at the same weight and watch your composition start to change. Right. So excited to kind of touch base on that here. And then on top of that, plus, it's been an amazing thing to watch your transformation as a coach with your body.

02:18But your mindset since day one of working with you has completely shifted. You're a very strong-minded individual, but you've gone the course of understanding how this is a journey. And you have brought so much to the table recently in our Q&As and our huddles about the whole aspect of what the journey should entail on the mindset side of things. So it's been amazing to watch your progress, both mind and body. And so everybody, Lisa is here today to share some pointers for you, babe, so that you can adopt some of her strategies into your own journey moving forward.

02:55So welcome, Lisa. I'm super excited to have you here. Thanks. All right, babe. So let's kick it off. Let's open it up and you tell us your story and how you got to where you are now. Okay. Going back a ways, just really throughout my life, I've just been on so many different, you know, my own journeys, you know, of one fad diet to the next, you know, the next year something new comes out.

03:25I'm like, oh, well, that's why that wasn't working because I was eating this, you know, and then it was like, oh, well, I'm not eating that. You know, it was always this eat this, don't eat that, do this, don't do that. And, you know, intermittent fasting and keto and, you know, all these are all the magic things, you know, and I'm like, well, if it's the magic thing, why do people keep going off of it? Why do they keep restarting it? You know, if this is the magic, you know, thing. And I was like, why can't I ever stick with anything, you know, and it was like, because I miss carbs.

03:57You know, that's what would attract me. Yeah. And, you know, so I stopped you for like a year, you know, and I just watched what you would say. And I was like, so many times, like just bells would go off. I'm like, oh, my gosh, yes. Like, that's exactly how I'm thinking, you know, like, how does she know I'm thinking? And so after I kind of just I trusted you before I knew you. And, you know, and I reached out to you several times, and you responded back directly to me. So I was like, okay, she's real.

04:27And, you know, I can do this. And so when I reached out to you, you know, and I was think I was eating like around 90 carbs a day, if, if that. And I thought that was, I thought that was actually a lot, you know, I was like, yeah, I thought that was a lot. And so you gave me that first week of it. And it was like, I think the very first week, I think I was at like 185 or 190 carbs. And I was like, oh, my gosh, you know, and we dropped like six pounds that week.

04:59And you were like, you know, so then you bumped me up to over 200 that next week. And I was like, oh, my gosh. You know, the first couple, it took me a few weeks to like, to start kind of feeling things. But after like, two, three, four weeks, I was like, my clarity started coming back. My mind wasn't just a total fog all the freaking time. And I had, I had energy, I had strength, like my workout started being productive again.

05:29I could actually lift heavier weight, just everything in general, you know, just, just came together. And so that's, that's what got me being a believer, you know, in the process. And then from there, the journey is just, you know, it'll go on, I think throughout the interview, we'll, we'll touch on it. But that's, that's kind of got me to where I was like, okay, I'm a believer, you know, when you were right there with me, you were like, don't freak out. You know, this is good. It's a good thing, you know, and I was, oh, and I was so hungry.

06:01Like, you instantly gave me like, all this more food. And, and, you know, after that, remember the first week I said, Nikki, I'm not gonna be able to eat all this food. This is so much food. And then after that, after that first week, I was like, I need more food, you know, and I think every week since then, I've been like, I want more food, you know. Yeah, you're pretty accommodating, you know. So how, so how long have you, would you say that your journey has been with the whole fitness, the whole trying the different things that you touched base on in the beginning to what got you to like right here?

06:39How long has that been? I probably, over 30 years. Wow. No, 30, 40 years of trying. I mean, I went from everything from, because, you know, when I was a teenager, you know, I was like, I was pudgy. I was pudgy. I was very fluffy. And so my mom, you know, put me out like the very first diet I remember was the grapefruit diet. And, yeah, it was terrible. And then it was the cabbage diet.

07:09And then it was the Scarsdale diet. And then it was just like one diet. And then it was like the eat one of every one kind of thing a day diet, you know, I mean, like, just from one thing to the other, literally, literally my whole life. And then, of course, you know, you would lose, I'd lose weight. But then I would get to that point. And I would just, I mean, how much cabbage can you eat? I said, I don't really eat cabbage to this day because of, you know, that diet. But, you know, and so everything would just, it would always, it would always just end up,

07:40I'd abandon it because it wasn't realistic. And there's no way you can stick to that. And every single time, you know, I was just, I would get thinner. But I didn't look necessarily better. And I would always go off of it. And then I would just gorge, you know, eat whatever, gain my weight back, plus some. And then the next new diet would come along. And I've done that for as long as I can remember. Yeah. What was that you want to share?

08:11I think we're just about to get like right into it. The way that we're conversating already, I can tell, like, I want you to be able to share like what you just recently shared on one of the Q&As, because this is what we were talking about. We were talking about all these different diets and the things that you've done to your body over the course of these years. And then you've come to this point recently, like you shared, it's like this epiphany just happened like a couple weeks ago. Share that. And what was that shift? Yeah. So obviously we've had more time on my hands lately,

08:43and I've had a lot more time to think about things. And I started asking myself a lot of questions, you know, about, because I've seen improvement in my body, even though I'm doing everything that I've always been told I couldn't do. I couldn't eat more. I definitely couldn't eat more carbs, you know, doing less cardio, you know, all these things that I've always been told you have to do. And so, you know, trusting this process. And I was like, you know, why do I have these goal ranges? You know, like I have a, I have this, this range of goals in my head that that's acceptable to me,

09:19that I can diet and get to, you know, this, this point. Why is it once I get to that point, I'm just like, okay, I've won, you know, I'm, I'm there. And then I just start eating normal again. And then I have this other range over here that that's my maximum acceptable range. You know, once I get there, that's my kind of like, I've reached unhappiness. Now, now it's time to start going back this way. And it was just kind of like this, this yo-yo effect. I would just keep going back and forth, back and forth, you know, for all these years. Well, I mean, heck, that's done a lot of damage to my body.

09:53My, my body was, was shot and it doesn't trust, it didn't trust me, you know. So when I started with you, I think I've, I've had a lot of resistance in my body for, for months because my body, it didn't believe me, you know, it was waiting for that shoe to drop, you know, oh, she's going to go back to, you know, what she was doing. And I think that when I didn't, probably around, probably around the six month mark is when I kind of started asking myself these questions. And, and just here recently, I've really gotten serious about questioning myself.

10:27And, you know, just wanting to know why I do these things. And I'm still not, you know, I'm not a hundred percent to that point yet of all my whys. But I am starting to recognize them, which is really big for me and talk about them, which anybody that knows me knows has really big. Yes. To share any weaknesses. Yes. Yes. A hundred percent. I know you so well. But that's, that's one thing that so many women, uh, on like a deeper level, don't realize

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12:08Yeah. And, um, you know, I do it just because I would do it because I always had an acceptable weight in my head. You know, like I always had this goal, like I want to get to, you know, whatever 135, you know, that's where I want to get to. And by all means necessary, I would get there. It was like a, it was like a challenge, you know, like my challenge weight is 135 go. You know, and I would do whatever I had to. I'd cardio myself to death and doing whatever, you know, eating a thousand calories a day.

12:40Yeah, I know. Right. And, um, you know, and then I would get there and I would be miserable. I was hungry as shit. And, you know, I just, I all around didn't feel good. You know, I didn't have the energy to go do things. I had terrible brain fog. Um, you know, just all the time. I just thought there was something wrong with me. Um, you know, and not understanding that not only was it my nutrition, but my mental set had become so skewed that I actually thought that this was right.

13:15Like this is how it should be. And this is how it, how it is. Um, and it's not. Yes. So let's touch base on that because you've been pretty much around this same weight. Um, and this is something that always screws with so many women's heads. Like I have to be this particular weight. Like you're saying, I need to get to 135, this challenge. I need to hit this specific weight. I need to lose 10, 15 pounds. You've been sitting at the same weight for like fluctuating for what?

13:45Like three months now. So, but we're seeing the composition changes. Your muscles are getting fuller and bigger. Your legs are getting fuller and bigger. So how share with, share with us this, how do you handle? See, not that, like the weight aspect, not really changing, but then being able to look at the pictures and be like, Hmm, like how do you, how do you handle it?

14:17It's not a weight thing. It's like your, your, your journey has been a lot of just, Hey, your composition is changing. Right. Right. And so before I even say that, you know, I'll say that with you, you know, every single week, you know, I'm accountable to you on Saturday mornings and I have check-ins with you. So that means my measurements. That means my pictures. That means my weight, you know, body fat. And so that's me. That's the first time ever that I've had to be accountable with all of that. It was usually just me looking in the mirror and, you know, getting on the scale.

14:48And so that number, that was everything. That number was everything on the scale. And so, and in the beginning with you, it was because that's just how my mind had been wired. And, you know, I would really freak out if my weight didn't drop down or if it went up half, half a pound, but yet I had been really good with, you know, my macros and my exercise. But then, you know, I just, I had to sit back and say, I have to trust this process. I'm with Nikki for a reason. So I just started, I said, I'm not going to concentrate on the scale.

15:19I'm really going to focus on what do I look like, you know? And I know that, you know, I do this. I take either my very first picture or I'll take one month previous and I keep them. So I put them side by side every week. And the changes that I see in my body, I'm like, well, that's weird. I'm the same weight, but why do I look so much different? You know, why is my waist changing? Why are my legs changing?

15:50You know, my arm, like everything is changing. My composition is changing. And taking that leap of faith to do that, that was the first time ever that I had done that. And that was a breakthrough point for me to break through to say that I use that number for Nikki. I give that number to Nikki and I let it, I give it to you and I let it go. You know, if it goes up, if it goes up, you know, and I've learned too, sometimes I'm on my period. So I may go up two or three pounds, you know, or, you know, things just may not be consistent

16:24with my body that week. I may not be eliminating properly. I mean, there's a ton of things I could have had Chinese food and had too much sodium. Like that scale is just not, you know, a rock solid number, you know, it fluctuates. Yeah. And so just, just understanding that that is not my go-to. How do I look, you know, looking at those numbers, looking at my measurements? Why am I, if I'm, if I put on a couple pounds, where, where? Because my measurements didn't change one single bit and I'm looking better.

16:56So I had to start trusting that process. And that was a hard process for me to, to trust. But once I did, once I, once I went across that threshold, then it just kind of, it just kind of all released and it all just clicked and it made sense to me. And then that's when I kind of really started opening up, asking myself questions, you know, and just exploring a little deeper. Yeah. That is so freaking powerful. It's, it's detaching yourself from that number and realizing how you can do that is by realizing

17:30the other variables that are coming into play. And by looking at yourself, looking at your side-by-side photos and seeing, holy sugar muffins, your body composition is drastically changing. And then is barely moving, but there's changes. Like it, the pictures that I'll have to somehow put it into this interview, but the pictures that you just recently shared with me, you can drastically see your quads are way bigger.

18:03Your arms are way bigger. The composition is changing. So, but your numbers staying the same. So like, like you're saying, breaking through that threshold, giving, it's a number for Nikki and that's it. Like the babes, it's a number for your check-ins and that's it. The value lies in your, in your photos, how you're feeling and there's measurements. And the one thing we didn't kind of put into that was that I may be gaining a little bit of weight now, but we didn't touch on the fact that I think you've brought me up like five or 600 calories a day, you know, and cut one of my cardio days.

18:37So like my food went up, my, you know, exertion went down and I'm still kind of really holding there. I mean, I haven't had, I haven't had any major jumps, a couple ounces, you know, but nothing major. Yeah. Yeah. That's another thing that we could totally touch base on is that if your, your body was sitting at a caloric intake for a very long enough time for it to get adapted. And in order to, to shock that body, we brought you up those 600 calories, lowered your, lowered

19:10your expenditure, but you can see that your body wanted that food because you're not shifting. If anything, you're filling out even more. So I got hungry that I got hungry that week. When you increased me, I wasn't hungry before. And then all of a sudden I was like, Oh my gosh, Nikki, I'm hungry. You know, like I want more food. Yeah. It's the moral, like that we're sharing with the women that they can understand is that food's not the enemy. The scale is, is not your go-to number. Your body composition is going to change.

19:42If you are, if your goal is to shape, change your body composition, to get tone, to build muscle, that number is not reliable and you need the food. You need the food in order to get there. Right. And I'm, I'm learning that. I mean, every, every day I still, I'm still learning. I mean, I'm, I'm so far away from knowing everything I need to know, but I'm so far removed from where I was. Yeah. So let's talk about that. How did, how do you deal with the psychological side of eating more food in order to get to the kind of goals that you've got in mind?

20:13Hey, Hey, just want to drop a huge appreciation to you guys listening to the show. It means a lot. I hope you guys are enjoying it and there's so much more to come with it. If you are enjoying it, hit the subscribe button. I'd appreciate that tons. And also it would help this podcast reach others who need to hear these messages too. Thanks so much guys. Let's get back to the show. You know, now, um, I I'm really positive about it. Like I'm, I embrace it now. I'm like, yes, give me more food.

20:44You know, how about that initial, like when you first started the VIP and you saw that carb number come through, what was your thought process? I was like, Oh my God, is she kidding? Like, no, I don't eat that many carbs in like three days. Is she kidding me? But then like when I was, you know, like planning out my meal, I was like, Oh, I can have a bagel. Like, you know, I started getting excited. It's like permission that you needed to be able to eat the foods that you enjoy. Right. And I was like, well, are you sure?

21:16Can I have like, I can have a bagel? And you're like, yeah. Okay. All right. I'm trusting you. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so the psychological part was really pretty easy for me. Um, and I think it's because it came at a good time for me. You know, like I was ready for that increase. I was ready to shake things up. I was ready. You're ready for any change. Yeah. You're ready for that change. Cause you were doing so much of the same thing.

21:46Right. You diet and you diet and you diet, low calories, low calories, low calories. And then you're like, okay, she wants me to eat. Okay. Right. Right. And that's, and that's like, you get to that point. Sorry. I don't mean to cut you off, but you kind of get to that point where you're like, what else do I have to, what else do I have to lose? I mean, I've been trying this whole way of things for so long. Right. And that's usually where people, that's where I would fall off when I'd hit that point where I couldn't make it change anymore. And the frustration would set in and I'd be like, forget it.

22:19Tired of trying, you know, why am I trying? And so, you know, but having you, you know, we could talk about it. Talk about it. You know, cause that's huge. I can talk to you every week and say, you know, what's going on? Why is this happening? You know, let's try this. Let's try that. You know, it just helps so much because there's there. Those are things I don't know. The biggest, the biggest pointer, number one pointer, plan ahead, plan your meals the day before. There are no excuses. You cannot wing it.

22:49You will not meet your protein goals. If you're going to wing it, you'll go over in your carbs and your fats and you will not meet your protein goals. Or at the end of the day, you will have some funky combination of crap that you're trying to put together because you have not planned properly or you're having to eat way too many calories. When I, I planned my day. I don't care what's going on the night before. It takes me less than five minutes to do my entire day. It's just a matter of getting used to it. And when you plan it that way, all six of my meals are spread out.

23:21They are proportioned properly. I've got my protein spread out. I've got my pre and post workout carbs where I need them to be. You cannot succeed long-term for your lifetime with this. If you do not plan ahead, period. If you don't plan your day ahead of time, it's not going to work. Amen. Mic drop. 100%. 100%. Don't just say, they probably, they hear me reiterate that over and over. So it's really nice having you come in and be like, plan ahead.

23:53Now, so talking about the protein, which you brought up a good point is like, you will have some wacky combination with the protein numbers. You'll be over. I hear commonly hear this, that it's, it's hard for them to hit protein numbers. How do you hit your protein numbers? Easily. Cause usually I'm like, Nikki, can I have more protein, please? I hear you. I hear you. Yeah. This is not enough protein. I need more. No. So I have, I have no problem. Like I don't have any suggestions on that because, you know, I spread, like I said, I spread

24:25it out throughout the day and I have protein with every meal. And, uh, what are your protein sources that you go to? Uh, my go-tos are, um, egg whites, lean ground beef, chicken, fish. Um, those are usually my main ones. And then with my prayer post-workout, I'll have a protein shake and ISO, you know, usually an isolate way for my post-workout shake. But egg whites are great because, you know, they just fill that protein source. It's stacked with protein and especially lean meats too, as well.

24:57It's just stacked with protein. Yep. Do you, do you, do you, uh, prep? How do you go about the prep? How do you do your meal prep? Um, I pretty much just on usually on Sundays or sometimes half midway through the week, I'll kind of refresh everything. But usually I just make my big tub of my ground beef, my thing of chicken. I steam out my broccoli or whatever my vegetable is for that week. Whatever my meats are, everything is already in a big Tupperware in there. And my whole family eats off of that.

25:28And that's why usually I'll do it twice a week. My husband knows, like, he doesn't come in and say, what's for dinner? You know, because he knows, like, you know, whatever's in there. Like there's rice. I cook a big thing of jasmine rice and we'll have that in there, you know, with some like new potatoes. And so you've got, when I open up the refrigerator, there's always a carb choice. There's always a protein choice. And then there's either avocado for the fats or I've got olive oil or, you know, coconut oil, whatever we have up there for the fats.

26:00And it's just, it's easy. It really is. Yes. Number one pointer for the protein is just bulk it, cook it and put it in a tub. Tupperware, put it in the fridge and you know, it's there. You just pull it out, lay it, put it in a Tupperware. If you're on the run, grab and go. And that, you know, if you're, there's no excuses for, well, I had an unexpected this. I had an unexpected that I had to run out. I wasn't expecting it. No, because all you do is throw your food into a Tupperware very quickly. You know, takes you two minutes and your food is there for you.

26:32I keep a to-go bag. It's always got like emergency things in there. It's got my go-to rice cakes. Gotta have rice cakes. You know, it's got, you know, packets of peanut butter or almond butter in there. I've got a couple of things of beef jerky. I've got some protein bars. That is an emergency go-to bag. Yeah. Because sometimes I'm out and I think I'm coming home and then something happens, you know, and that I missed that three, I'm going to miss that three hour window. And the thing is by now at this point being in the program, you know, almost nine months,

27:03that means that I'm going to have to change the macros. But because my day is already set and now I'm so used to doing my macros, all I have to do is go in and adjust. Do I need to reduce my fats in this meal? Do I need to increase my protein? You know, it's easy at that point because everything is already in there and I'm just recalculating and tweaking, you know, a few of the things. A hundred percent. So, so this is a really good question. How, being that you are so advanced with the macro side of things now, what do you, what

27:34got you to that point? I did not like being hungry and I would always screw up. I would, I was not being prepared enough in the beginning. And after, you know, after talking with you and you're like, got, you know, get it planned ahead of time and, uh, doing that, that just, that going to be, being able to go to the refrigerator and know that it was there and I could just grab it, you know, poor planning was the reason

28:05that I saw why, why having everything set was so important. Cause when I poor plan, I poor eat. I know that's not really a proper sentence, but. No, you, you, you said it point blank. Like, you poor plan, you poor eat. Yeah. Really. It's really as simple as that. And if you are not eating properly, nothing else is going to go right. You're not going to feel like doing your workouts and it's going to throw you psychologically off that you already screwed up your day.

28:35So why do I need to work out? I'll start tomorrow. Um, which is another psychological game we play. That's why we always wait till Monday to start a diet, you know? Exactly. So touching base on a psychological side and your mindset shift has been so amazing throughout your entire journey here as a, as a warrior babe. What do you think is the biggest mental shift that you've personally made here for yourself and your fitness journey? Oh, I've had a few. Um, my biggest mental shift would really have to be the, the letting go of the number.

29:08That's, that's my biggest one. It, it, that's huge for me. Um, letting go of that, just letting the scale go. Um, and realizing that it's about me getting me to where I want to be, but to be able to stay there. And that scale number was not going to, you know, do that for me. Being able to accept that maybe I don't really know what my true proper weight should be. You know, maybe I need to let my body tell me that and work with my body instead of working

29:41against my body, you know? Um, and so after I just, just getting rid of that number out of my head, just go 135 is not my weight. No girl, you got to, you got muscle on you now. If you're going to do a comp, maybe, I mean, we'll push it down there, but that's necessary. Um, but yeah, it's kind of just like going where you get to your goals, whatever point it is. So you get to your goals. That's what weight you are, you know? Cause I mean, you could be like, we, we joke about on the calls, Pam wants to be 170.

30:13And be, be packed with muscle and somebody, somebody who is five, two would be completely different numbers. Like everybody's completely different. Just focusing on your goals and then whatever your, wherever your goal is, that's your weight. Yep. It's huge. Absolutely. So what do you, for, for somebody who's just starting their journey besides the planning ahead and you know, poor planning equals poor eating. What is something, what, what advice would you give if you were just face to face sitting

30:45down with somebody and they were just starting their journey and they asked you, okay, how have you been so successful? What's the advice that you would give them that when they're just starting their fitness journey? Well, the first thing would be that you really have to be honest with yourself. You have to, you know, you have to understand some of the things that have maybe gotten you to where you are. Um, that it's kind of a tough one because in the beginning, sometimes you don't recognize,

31:22you know, I know with me that probably wouldn't have resonated because I wouldn't have recognized that about myself yet because I thought I knew what, you know, I kind of thought I knew what I was doing wrong or doing right. Um, you know, so that's kind of tough with me, but I think just really being honest, um, especially as somebody starting off with you, being honest with you. Um, I know a lot of people think that they can, um, not be honest, you know, like I hit my macros or, you know, I was really, and that's only robbing them because you're here

31:56to help them. You're not here to criticize them. So that's why I'll tell you, like, if I've screwed up, you know, like I had a really bad week, I just screwed up because then you understand that my numbers went up, but there was a reason for it. It's not because my macros weren't at the right spot. It's because I ate more macros than I should have, or maybe I ate less than I was supposed to. And I didn't get my water in and, you know, my body, I've got inflammation. I've got a lot of things going on, like just really being open and honest. Um, you know, I can't talk about anybody on any other fitness journey or, you know, but,

32:29but with you, um, and just being honest with you because we have a lot of things going on with us. You know, I have, I have a lot of stuff that causes inflammation in my body. I let you know that stuff, you know, because it makes sense to you or, you know, at being at the age where I'm going to start being, you know, postmenopausal or menopausal. Um, you know, those are, those are things that we have to understand about our body. So I guess for a newbie, you just have to understand that maybe everything that you've always been told is not the truth and it's not correct.

33:00And it's not right for you. So that if you're coming into this program, you need to learn how to trust the process. You need to understand that you're going to be probably eating more than you're used to. Um, you're probably going to be doing probably less cardio than you're used to. Um, but that each one of us is different and that, you know, you and your team are great and you figure things out and, um, you know, to get us where we need to be. Yeah. The honesty is definitely, I, uh, completely agree.

33:31And I appreciate everything you said, but the honesty is probably the most important thing. And that's why you and I hit it all from the start. Cause you were open, honest. If you went over on macros or something like that at the beginning, you were Nikki, I did this. Um, when he went on the way on vacation, you were open and honest talking on the honesty game, because a lot of people think that they can get away. Like you're saying like, yeah, I hit my macros this week. Um, and, and that, that right there, if you actually didn't, and then I'm like tossing my

34:02brain, I'm like, well, why the fuck have a numbers moved? Why haven't, why hasn't anything shifted? That can make the whole situation even worse. Like if I need to shift numbers and you're actually not eating it and I cut you down lower, like your metabolism can crash if I ended up doing that. And that's why not only the honesty on that end, but also the honesty and responsibility for where you are at the start of your journey coming into it so that you know that, um, everything you've done can needs to be, will probably need to be fixed. Now there's gonna be a different outlook moving forward.

34:34Like you said, you're gonna be eating more food, just the whole mental shift of responsibility and honesty when you first start off with something. A hundred percent. That's great. Great advice. Love it. So what, what, what would you say, uh, being a warrior babe means to you? Um, this one I actually wrote down because I knew that I wanted to say it right. Yes. You know, me and my squirrel mind, but I said warrior babe is a total and complete mindset

35:08shift. It is a physical, mental, and emotional shift to become the very best person that I can be. It has challenged me daily, weekly, and monthly to dig in deep and hard and find the strength that I need to change my body and my mindset. Wow. You're giving me chills. That's awesome. And, and you have legitimately lived that experience that you just shared. You have, uh, come in, created a insane shift with not just your body, but like I said, the

35:39beginning, your mindset has totally shifted. I mean, one of the biggest things that I think that I keep replaying in my head because I know it's going to help so many women, um, is the fact when you shared that, you know, I've done the 12, I've done decades of, uh, of abuse to my body with the different programmings that I've tried and done. And now I'm realizing that I still, I have decades moving forward to actually do it the right way. Right. Yeah, absolutely. And, and, you know, like, like I had shared on the one call too, I said, you know, I know that we always kind of talk about, you know, the journey, you know, and I said that I've,

36:12I've, I've kind of removed myself from that word because still to that, to me, the journey somehow has an ending to it. You know, people talk about the race, you know, and I'm like, well, those definitely end, you know? And so for me, it's just becoming more, I just have tried to transition that to the lifestyle that I have moved into, you know, the proper lifestyle for me, that this is here to stay. It's not somewhere that I'm going to get to a certain point and then be like, okay, you know, I'm here.

36:42You know, it's, it's just a constant, it's going to be my lifestyle, you know, eating my macros properly, exercising properly. And, you know, that's important for me. You can make me live until you get 120. I hope not. I don't have enough money to do that. Awesome, Lisa. Well, let's close it out with giving the babes your like favorite snack or favorite macro combo that you enjoy eating on a daily basis.

37:14Okay, you're going to laugh. So my favorite, my favorite snack that I love is a piece of Ezekiel bread toasted with Biscoff cookie butter on it. Oh, I, my daughter got me turned on to that. And like, I fit my whole day. I put that in first before I do anything else. Where did you get this Biscoff cookie? At the grocery store in the peanut butter aisle. And it's the best tasting and get the crunchy because the crunchy actually had like the

37:48cookie bits in it instead of nuts. It has the crunched up cookie. It's so good. Oh my God, that sounds incredible. A brand? And the good thing with it is on some days, like I've run out of protein, but I still need carbs and fat. So that's got the carbs and fat and hardly any protein. So that works good. Perfect. My favorite. That sounds amazing. I'm going to go to the grocery store now. I'm buying some. What, what brand is it? I think it's actually just Biscoff. It's like the, it's like from the cook, you know, the, the cookies that they give you

38:20on the airplane, just really good cookies. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's just Biscoff. Nice. I'll send you, I'll send you a picture of it. Okay. All right. And then what's your, what would you say is your favorite muscle group to, to work out? Shoulders. Nice. I knew you were saying. Yes. Show their shoulders off. Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're feeling a little weak today, but that's only because of your workout. All right, babe. So for those of you who want to learn more about the programs that worry, babe offers and

38:53how to get started, you can go to www.worrybabe.com and become a part of thousands of women who are getting to want to becoming stronger, more confident versions of themselves. And Lisa is one of them. Lisa, you shared so much great value, so much great insight in terms of, it's not just the body transformation, but it's also the mental transformation and you are living proof of it. So thank you for your time here. I appreciate you. You're welcome. I appreciate you. All right. Bye everybody.

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